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Project why not
10-16-2008, 09:20 PM,
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Project why not
Been slow in here for the last few weeks - I don't really NEED to change anything on my Jeep but in the interests of keeping the website dynamic and interesting, I thought a new project would be a nice idea.

My YJ "seems" to have it all: Power (lots), agility, light-weight, clearance, reliability, hybrid 1 ton differentials, flexiness.....list goes on.

I've even stretched the wheelbase 9" to within a half-inch of a Cherokee XJ's wheelbase of 101.5" (It's at 101" now).

And it fits under a 7ft door with 40" tires fully aired up. That in itself is an achievement.

But like all things Jeep - it can get better. And I am never satisfied. And HMFI made me promise not to turn it into a buggy.

So - I have decided to increase the wheelbase to 108". A seven inch stretch.

This is a bit of an issue at this point however. I can not go any further forward with my front differential without redoing all my suspension. I also cannot go any further back with the rear end (and keep it streetable).

Stay tuned (yes it will be done by New Years) - I have a plan. Pictures, specs, etc to follow.

Here is another tech thread I am working on - check it out (it's worth the read I promise):

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...ight=400hp
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10-16-2008, 10:10 PM,
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I wheel a 116" Mine is still looooooooooooooooonger than yours Lol

This should be good. All I can think of is a frame stretch. Lets make a 4 door yj! :wink:

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10-17-2008, 07:29 AM,
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I thought that 99" to 101" was the magic w/b for a Wrangler? Or is that maybe just with smaller tires?
Anyway, your right - it will be an interesting thread Big Grin

4 door YJ Rolleyes Lol
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10-17-2008, 08:56 AM,
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PedalMesh Wrote:I thought that 99" to 101" was the magic w/b for a Wrangler? Or is that maybe just with smaller tires?
Anyway, your right - it will be an interesting thread Big Grin

4 door YJ Rolleyes Lol

No, it will not have four doors Smile

100" wheelbase is a bit stubby for 40's...like I said the goal is 108".
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10-17-2008, 03:51 PM,
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Then how bout some rear steer???? for some real agility...
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10-17-2008, 03:58 PM,
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eric__kam Wrote:Then how bout some rear steer???? for some real agility...

My rig is very light. I want to keep it that way. And I want it to be somewhat streetable.

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*Update*

Made two stops today - Peace Steel and Air Liquide.

Dean at Peace is getting my material order together - and all my welding/cutting/plasma supplies are topped up.
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10-17-2008, 06:10 PM,
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Have you weighted your jeep? Just curious to what yours weights, I never did get around to weighing mine.
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10-17-2008, 07:00 PM,
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eric__kam Wrote:Have you weighted your jeep? Just curious to what yours weights, I never did get around to weighing mine.

4400lbs wet w/full trail equipment, extra fuel, and me.
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10-19-2008, 08:55 PM,
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It's going to be helpful to have a reference of what the side-view looked like BEFORE the stretch.

Here's a shot from today - baseline:

[Image: DSCN0017.JPG]
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10-19-2008, 10:47 PM,
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dude. what an insane rig. I can't imagine what's next.
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10-20-2008, 10:46 AM,
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are you cutting it apart this week?

Unsure - may get busy with work here.
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10-20-2008, 10:54 PM,
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4400lbs !!!!! Put that tank on a diet already Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Them LTB's are SICK !!!

Cant wait to see whats next.
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10-21-2008, 01:01 PM,
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bnine Wrote:4400lbs !!!!! Put that tank on a diet already Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Them LTB's are SICK !!!

Cant wait to see whats next.

Each tire and rim is 145 lbs!!!

Stay tuned Smile
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10-21-2008, 07:34 PM,
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I would go alum rims and shave all the lugs off to save weight.

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10-21-2008, 10:55 PM,
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HMFI Wrote:I would go alum rims and shave all the lugs off to save weight.

I've saved alot of weight by going without axles or tires. :P
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10-21-2008, 11:12 PM,
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I know, I'm holding it all!! :?

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10-22-2008, 10:47 AM,
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I dropped 120lbs just in links on Denise's rig. Went from solid RK links, to spydertrax heat treated chromoly stuff. I am shooting for 3500lbs ready for trail on her rig.

Havnt weighed mine yet, but I am guessing its right around that 4400 mark as well
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10-22-2008, 04:44 PM,
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bnine Wrote:I dropped 120lbs just in links on Denise's rig. Went from solid RK links, to spydertrax heat treated chromoly stuff. I am shooting for 3500lbs ready for trail on her rig.

Havnt weighed mine yet, but I am guessing its right around that 4400 mark as well

It's also a 4 popper - lose 250lbs right there.

We should turbo it. I'm in.
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10-22-2008, 06:19 PM,
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Quote:Each tire and rim is 145 lbs!!!
I like to keep my weight down low as well :wink:
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10-28-2008, 10:00 PM,
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Re: Project why not
Alright - time to move this project forward.

Finally, some specialized suspension and safety components arrived from the states. I've been using these guys more and more lately:

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/home.php

Some of the new, universal Currie Johnny Joints and some roll-cage frame tie-in kits:

[Image: DSCN0063.JPG]

Some laser cut tabs for safety harnesses, and some ultra-trick tubing inserts to make sections of cages/tubing removable:

[Image: DSCN0064.JPG]

Safety first. After laying one Jeep over this Fall, and giving the other Jeep close to 500HP, it was time to consider my choice of restraint system:

[Image: DSCN0065.JPG]

Since I'll be essentially cutting my Jeeps frame in half - I thought it prudent to send it back into service with a fresh coat of top quality rust paint.

[Image: DSCN0062.JPG]

Tomorrow I head to Peace Steel to pick up a bundle of plate and tubing.

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