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This months Redbull winner ... Moonshinerunner!
05-14-2010, 11:51 AM,
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This months Redbull winner ... Moonshinerunner!
Winner of this little contest will win a full case of redbull!

The questions are rather simple.

Corey will judge the 'best' answer.


1. What minimum amount of horse power is required to run
54 inch boggers?

2. What minimum beef of diffs is required to run these tires?


Winner will receive his redbull next week Wednesday.
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05-14-2010, 01:11 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
300hp minimum with close to same torque and either 2.5 ton rockwells or built dana 60's with nothing higher than 6.88 gears
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05-14-2010, 01:26 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
At least 350hp with 400 ft/lbs, from an engine that has a decent torque curve from 1500 rpm to 4000 rpm. A gm performance fast burn 383 puts out 425hp and 450 ft-lbs. It would be sufficant, more hp would always be nice.

For axles 2.5 Rockwells would be a nice axle to use with gear ratio of 6.72:1 and should be strong enough and still be able to get you to 100km/hr if you want to dare to go that fast. Could use some unimog axles but you wouldnt really need portals if you are on 54s. You will also need a low first gear and probably a dual t cases to get a good usable low crawling speed.
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05-14-2010, 01:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2010, 01:48 PM by Dishtowel.)
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
Easy,

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complete with 54" boogers

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05-14-2010, 02:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2010, 02:35 PM by scrudeman.)
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
(05-14-2010, 01:47 PM)Dishtowel Wrote: Easy,

refer to examplA

complete with 54" boogers

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05-14-2010, 04:11 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2010, 04:15 PM by RedRooster.)
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
(05-14-2010, 11:51 AM)mostlyfscked Wrote: Winner of this little contest will win a full case of redbull!

The questions are rather simple.

Corey will judge the 'best' answer.


1. What minimum amount of horse power is required to run
54 inch boggers?

2. What minimum beef of diffs is required to run these tires?


Winner will receive his redbull next week Wednesday.

Are we talkin a mud runner? a TTC type truck. Pavement pounder?

My Cherokee could do er with a set of Built Dana 70's and 7.17's
So i guess a tired 190hp. Wouldn't win any mud drags, but it'd getter done.
Dana 70's live under the front of topkicks if anyone cares.
Mog Axles are good too. They come stock with 44" comercial rubber. So 54" Boggers should be fawk all.
Rockwells are heavy, good if your funneling 900hp into these.
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05-14-2010, 06:33 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
simple answers for simple questions
im doing the minimun like asked
1. 45hp the motor can be an midsize case/johndeer/catapiler any of these will do and these inline motors can fit in passenger truck/jeep
i know you can't do burn outs but you can run 54's and have an sweet
beefy motor on your trail rig

2.dana 60's with forged crome moly crown and pinion and forged crome moly axles. there was no stock rule for the axle's so i think these
forged dana 60's can hold out
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05-14-2010, 08:46 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
I believe there is no correct answer to this question. What ever "answer" the asker has is based on someones' personnal opinion.

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05-14-2010, 10:45 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
I think we should let this run another day or two.

I guess we should clarify a bit. We already had a scenario for running the 54's, so I'm not really judging just seeing who comes closest to what my personal opinion is (like Sheldon said, there really is no "right answer", this is more opinion based, and everyone will have a slightly different opinion).

When we say "minimum" what we mean is enough power and enough axle to a) drive down the street in a reasonable fashion, b) drive down the trail with enough power to motivate the tires when needed, and c) not break all the time.

Just a fun hypothetical question and some Redbull for a prize PiratePiratePiratePiratePirate
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05-14-2010, 11:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-15-2010, 12:00 AM by RedRooster.)
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
The gearing options for for a dana 60 and 10.25 stearling combo are limited to 5.38. Which is what i believe is currently in a goat i know.
To step up to 54" you'll wanna add a set of portal-teck outers. IMHO. And maybe stroke out the 4.0l currently pushing them. The additional torque you'd need to turn the beastys as its set-up would mean alot of torn-up drive shafts.
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05-15-2010, 08:49 AM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
I wouldn't even touch a D60 with 54" boggers, chromoly or not. D70 or 2.5 rockwells. For power, you would want at least 300rwhp, and 400lbs of torque. you'd never climb anything steep without the power for tires of this size. Of course this is also all dependant on the weight of the vehicle the tires are going onto. I'm using 3500lbs for my basis. a dedicated light weight tube buggy would come in well below that.
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05-15-2010, 12:49 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
Depends on what your definition of climb. You certainly wouldn't be able to do any highspeed stuff. but lotsa gearing options will help out.
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05-15-2010, 05:52 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
Anybody else want to throw their hat in the ring?
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05-15-2010, 07:56 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
So, I'm right.

But I don't like RedBull, so the game is still on.

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05-15-2010, 10:21 PM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
54's on the goat would be cool. Dump the clutch+5 and slide in a AW4.
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05-16-2010, 10:47 AM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
I had decided when Rob made the question, that the person who guessed "closest" to:

- 400HP at the wheels

- Rockwell 2.5 ton minimum differentials

- Upgraded axleshafts in the rockwells

..would be the winner.

So Rob, who gets a case of RedBull (this month)??
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05-17-2010, 08:04 AM,
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RE: This month you must 'work' for your redbull!
I specified you as the judge. I suppose I'll throw a wrench at it.


Moonshinerunner was the first to mention both the 450+ hp and the Rockwells.

So I shall award ... Moonshinerunner!

I will PM with details later Moonshine
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05-17-2010, 09:28 AM,
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RE: This months Redbull winner ... Moonshinerunner!
Sounds alright to me.
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05-17-2010, 03:34 PM,
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RE: This months Redbull winner ... Moonshinerunner!
(05-17-2010, 09:28 AM)moonshinerunner Wrote: Sounds alright to me.

IDEA!! since Ray is pretty much confined to the indoors while healing up. Why not post or pm him if you need research done or looking for stuff on google or kijiji or???? Just a thought, so he doesn't go batty. Or Battier or....... whateverMrgreen
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05-17-2010, 03:47 PM,
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RE: This months Redbull winner ... Moonshinerunner!
I could handle that.
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